tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post1547584765194157475..comments2024-01-30T03:23:25.504-05:00Comments on Ricardo's Blog, : Dendrobium culture: anosmum and its relativesRicardohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-50790044152383103672021-01-12T16:25:25.693-05:002021-01-12T16:25:25.693-05:00Hello Ricardo!
This post on dendrobium anosum is ...Hello Ricardo!<br /><br />This post on dendrobium anosum is very helpful and good to see it still gets a lot of attention 12 years after the original post date. Many folks are looking for information.<br /><br />If you have time, please consider this den anosum situation.<br /><br />I just bought a 4” potted den anosum and removed the pot to inspect roots. It is extremely root bound with very little, almost no mix visible. The longest cane is about a meter long and there are 3 smaller canes about half a meter long.<br /> <br />I would like to grow it in a hanging basket and have a 6” wood basket ready. The den roots barely fit. <br /><br />Is it advisable to trim/prune the roots? Or should I find a larger container?<br /><br />Thank you!<br />Raepdx243https://www.blogger.com/profile/01391534765482085713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-44184434682101581222020-12-10T19:05:04.555-05:002020-12-10T19:05:04.555-05:00The extremes of temperature here are 90 at the hei...The extremes of temperature here are 90 at the height of summer and 55 at the depth of winter. I think Dendrobium anosmum will do all right as long as temperatures won't dip below 45F. When my plants lose their leaves in December I stop watering and fertilizing them until early March. I do this to avoid turning the flower buds into keikis<br />Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-25579745898178567402020-11-12T02:31:32.290-05:002020-11-12T02:31:32.290-05:00Hello Ricardo, I've just found your post on th...Hello Ricardo, I've just found your post on the Anosmum. What temperatures does the plant live under? I'm in a mild winter temperatures - not tropical- and I'm hesitating whether to keep my anosmum outside for the winter, so that it can get the winter sun, or move indoors, to keep better temperatures but not as much sunlight. <br />Thanks!Ferranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06242910364210461902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-86013868543727970182019-03-09T10:32:11.156-05:002019-03-09T10:32:11.156-05:00I Agree buds in the same cane. Once my anosmum lea...I Agree buds in the same cane. Once my anosmum leaves started to fall in the middle of Feb. buds in the same cane growing. Flowers completely bloom & end of March. This cycle repeated until my anosmum spread more.. After flowering I not even cut the old cane because little anosmum grow again in the same cane sometime..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15318939799342070510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-57327030685559597162018-10-15T06:11:28.658-04:002018-10-15T06:11:28.658-04:00Hi Ricardo, I have been thinking of you since your...Hi Ricardo, I have been thinking of you since your terrible hurricane , I hope that you and your family are safe. Did you suffer much damage to your orchids?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08127212792833939920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-33058792270114765102016-11-11T04:00:33.511-05:002016-11-11T04:00:33.511-05:00Hi Ricardo,
Noted, Thanks Ricardo. Appreciate you...Hi Ricardo,<br /><br />Noted, Thanks Ricardo. Appreciate your information sharing. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-12682330281015409592016-11-10T22:20:29.093-05:002016-11-10T22:20:29.093-05:00In Puerto Rico, Den anosmum starts losing its leav...In Puerto Rico, Den anosmum starts losing its leaves in December, when the days are getting shorter. They will lose their leaves even if heavily watered. I have plants lose all their leaves even though it was raining every day. By January the dry season has started and the frequency of rain drops severely. In February and March, a whole month can go without a drop of rain. The new growths start in late February, early March. I find the flower buds usually in the last two weeks of February, the plants start blooming by the middle of March. Not all the plants bloom at the same time due to genetic differences. The first one to bloom here is the huttoni variety, then the alba and finally the typical form. Other varieties bloom even later. Older plants produce more flowers. A fully grown plant of my anosmum can measure between five and six feet long. Some variants top out at four. Hybrids with parishii rarely measure more that three and some are quite small. I would expect Den anosmum to grow and bloom well where you live as long as temperatures dont go under 60 degrees for prolongued spells.<br />Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-58373768754215036122016-11-09T22:55:06.307-05:002016-11-09T22:55:06.307-05:00Hi Ricardo,
I manage to find some conclusion on ...Hi Ricardo, <br /><br />I manage to find some conclusion on my queries to you. Regarding the auntie that sells anosmum gigantea (i name this 1st nursery for better understanding of this text) . She says that she didnt really care or tend to them. She bought it when it has flowered and left it that way. Due to this she dont recommend me to buy and says that this species is hard to bloom. Later on i managed to recall a nursery (3rd nursery) which is almost 1 hour drive from my place which has anosmum too and they have lots of them. So i went over to request to have a look at their older anosmum collections and found that their cane is much thicker than the 1st nursery and this nursery claims that it flowers once a year and old plant will have more blooms compare to younger plant. They says this is a local plant and will definately bloom. Judging from their knowledge and plant health, i believe is a matter of how they take care of it. I believe that answers why the 1st nursery has no blooms.<br /><br />As for the 2nd question on why Malaysia local nursery do not need to cut back on water (which 3rd nursery did mentioned, there is no need to cut back on water..water everyday of the year). I think maybe this is a local plant...somehow the plants know when is the time to bloom.<br /><br />Regarding the last question, i never really believe what the other nursery man (2nd nursery)who say how much it blooms is depending on genetics and he sells different price due to number of blooms. 3rd nursery did mentioned that how much it blooms is depending on how you take care and their anosmum blooms alot..which i believe is true because from the old canes, i can see many blooms left over sign. <br /><br />So i bought one old plant from them which has many blooms left over sign on 3 old, 2ft length canes. There is 3 leaves canes ard 2.5ft - 3ft length on it. The price is slightly cheaper than the 2nd nursery too. He says in malaysia, it blooms ard June. Then i accidentally bend one of the cane and cause a 30% diameterly crack..my heart was aching...i then took care of the wound, apply some cinnamon and make sure it wont crack further. Hoping to take good care of it so that it blooms nicely despite the crack. <br /><br />Thanks Ricardo.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-27089012355818361122016-11-02T00:55:58.886-04:002016-11-02T00:55:58.886-04:00Hi Ricardo, it doesnt matter on the origin of the ...Hi Ricardo, it doesnt matter on the origin of the name anosmum. I will feel bad for troubling you to find that out. In actual fact i am just wondering why some ppl claimed that their anosmum has no fragrance. <br /><br />By the way, i have a scenario here. The aunty from the nursery that i mentioned that wanted to sell me the anosmum gigentuem says that her anosmum bloomed when she bought it but has not bloom after that...most probably for a year. Is there any reason why? Is it because of insufficient sunlight? She is taking care of it in her nursery though..under sun with 50 percent shade. <br /><br />I am from Malaysia, i believe anosmum is native to my climate too. According to my local nurseries, they didnt cut back on watering to induce bloom which i was kind of confused. In the wild, anosmum might receive less water during dry season. Thats when the anosmum knows is time to produce buds. But in nurseries, if they dont cut back on watering, how does the anosmum knows and start to develop bud? <br /><br />There is another nursery here in Malaysia where this man told me that he sells at a higher price, if the anosmum has many blooms / buds in the same cane. He says it is because the anosmum with many blooms / buds will continue to provide lots of blooms if taken care properly but for anosmum with less bloom will produce less bloom no matter how good i take care of it. He says is kind of like genetically built in even thought same species but is different individual, just like ppl that is born smart will be smart. I dont really agree with him and i felt like he is trying to con me. Hahaha... I read your post and i believe any plant, as long as they are in a suitable condition and well care, they will bloom vigorously regardless of genetic...most of them might come from the same grandparents though. Correct me if i am wrong. <br /><br />Thanks in advance for sharing your experience and thoughts.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-57236791498037420682016-11-01T20:17:16.854-04:002016-11-01T20:17:16.854-04:00I will have to check out on my books to see if the...I will have to check out on my books to see if there is any explanation for why the person that described this plant named it anosmum. Actually the original name was macranthum, but was invalid since I think it had already been used for another species. All the plants of anosmum I have ever seen have been highly fragrant. The only anosmum hybrid that I have seen that is not fragrant is Adastra.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-11423190073142154572016-10-31T20:24:51.243-04:002016-10-31T20:24:51.243-04:00Hi Ricardo, thank you very much for the informatio...Hi Ricardo, thank you very much for the information. Your explanation is very clear. I will buy that anosmum. :)<br /><br />I also find this thing abt anosmum that is quite interesting. Anosmum is know as unscented plant yet it is known with strong / overpowering fragrance, why is that so? There are also ppl that have anosmum but claim that it has no fragrance, it is due to that their anosmum is a hybrid or another plant that resemble anosmum but has no fragrance? <br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-91710840122856748892016-10-31T20:17:13.046-04:002016-10-31T20:17:13.046-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-63416423057677878762016-10-31T12:01:37.205-04:002016-10-31T12:01:37.205-04:00Dendrobium superbum is a name that has been used f...Dendrobium superbum is a name that has been used for plants that come from the Philippines. It is the same species as anosmum. I guess if you are in the Philippines, the plant will grow better since they are in their native habitat. As far as I can tell, all anosmum have the same fragrance. In fact I can't tell apart the fragrances of anosmum, parishii, rhodopterigyum, Nestor, Supernestor and Sweetscent. In my experience the strength of the fragrance is more related to how many flowers the plant has than to any other characteristic. The white form of anosmun is scientifically described as dearei. The term alba is used informally for any white flower. If someone told me about a Den. superbum alba, I would think it was a white flowered plant from the Philippines. In my experience all anosmum grow well in low to middle elevations as long as the weather is warm enough. Hybrids with parishii and rhodopterigyum lose vigor under warm conditions but grow beautiful under a more temperate climate.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-12993350089188832992016-10-31T02:43:07.140-04:002016-10-31T02:43:07.140-04:00Thanks for the insight Ricardo. I love to get one ...Thanks for the insight Ricardo. I love to get one after i read some description of the fragrance which is like raspberries / strawberries and strength of scent. The aunty in the nursery says that the only difference is that it is easier to bloom compare to normal anosmum. I am wondering whether to buy that..if it is anosmum family, all of them should have the same fragrance and strength of fragrance? What do you think?<br /><br />By the way i also read some ppl mentioned superbum var alba too. What does superbum really means? Im sorry that im new to orchid and anosmum is the that one that really attract my attention and interest and i really want to know more abt it.<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-31785171758714437542016-10-30T14:11:38.839-04:002016-10-30T14:11:38.839-04:00In regards to Dendrobium anosmum varietal names, t...In regards to Dendrobium anosmum varietal names, the only ones in which there is wide agreement is alba and huttoni. The other ones may refer to a variety of plants that fit a general mold but are not what one would call an uniform population. As far as I can tell gigateum has never been scientifically described. It might refer to a plant with particularly large flowers but the thing is, flowers in anosmum can vary significantly in size for a number of reasons. So to me Den. anosmum giganteum is an informal designation that got attached to some plants but that lacks a scientifically detailed description of which traits define this plant. By the way, technically speaking, if it is a valid variety it has to be giganteum because the genus Dendrobium is a male latin form and any word following it has to end in the corresponding ending -eum. I have seen for sale many types of anosmum with well defined traits such as a thai variant that at first sight looks almost exactly like Dendrobium Nestor but on closer examination is clearly anosmum. Another is variety velutina from Papua New Guinea which in color is indistinguishable from anosmum but in the vegetative form of the plant and in the flower shape is very distinct from the mainland forms of anosmum. It may be that the name is a commercial designation for a group of similar plants but has no scientific validity. For example I have a plant labeled Den anosmum var. delacourii, very distinctive from other anosmum however I have yet to find the name mentioned in any book or magazine and I have not seen photos of the flowers anywhere except for a single note in Woods Dendrobium book but under a different varietal designation. Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-47945747151158182402016-10-30T12:22:25.328-04:002016-10-30T12:22:25.328-04:00Hi Ricardo, i like your post on the anosmum and is...Hi Ricardo, i like your post on the anosmum and is very informative. Recently i came across a nursery in Malaysia selling few species of anosmum. She told me she has the common anosmum, anosmum alba, semi-alba and gigantea. I did a search online and saw some post mentioning gigantea and some is giganteum. I am not sure which is the correct word. I am also wondering gigantea or giganteum (which ever it is), does it refer to superbum? This website mentioned that superbum / giganteum. Is it the same? Please enlighthen me. TQVM.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16371625026511460556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-28648721000969957202015-04-08T16:58:22.490-04:002015-04-08T16:58:22.490-04:00Once the canes lose their leaves they stay bare un...Once the canes lose their leaves they stay bare until they die. However older canes are essential to the survival of the plant because they serve to support the new growths on the plant when they are starting, which where I live, is usually before the dry season peaks. High temperatures will shorten the life of the flowers. In your particular case, I would move the plant to a spot where it is not subjected to a warm dry stream of air from the compressor. Your plant sounds great, with good culture it can become even larger.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-71068732587898690922015-04-04T01:20:49.158-04:002015-04-04T01:20:49.158-04:00Hello Ricardo. I am new to your blog but I truly a...Hello Ricardo. I am new to your blog but I truly appreciate your sharing your knowledge on how to grow orchids since I only started caring for orchids this year. I live in Manila and recently bought 2 dendrobium anosmum plants that have each about 6-10 very long canes that had a lot of flowers buds that bloomed for about a week and withered. All of the canes now are without flowers or leaves. There are about 6 new growths coming out of one plant and the other has 3 new growths. Will the old canes still grow leaves or they will stay leafless until the canes die? I put them in my lanai that has filtered light although my concern is that both plants are hanging directly above the compressor of our split type air conditioning unit which we open only at night . How would this affect my plants? . Could this be the reason why the flowers bloomed for only 1 week? Thank you and Would appreciate your kind reply.Vianenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-14934141579982388072015-03-04T19:29:08.741-05:002015-03-04T19:29:08.741-05:00Dans mon expérience, le Dendrobium nobile n'a ...Dans mon expérience, le Dendrobium nobile n'a pas bien grandi quand il a semé dans le fond du pot de sorte que cette baisse. Toutefois, si vous plantez dans le côté d'un panier de treillis métallique, il se ils poussent bien. Je ne peux pas expliquer cette différence entre Den. anosmum et Den. nobile. Mes hybrides de Dendrobium, l'Yamamoto, poussent bien dans la manière conventionnelle.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-76769273566538411152015-02-26T23:41:05.956-05:002015-02-26T23:41:05.956-05:00bonjour Ricardo
Est ce que les dendrobiums nobile ...bonjour Ricardo<br />Est ce que les dendrobiums nobile peuvent etre plantés la tete en bas?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380206906372839009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-46649127535550096032015-02-10T18:30:49.644-05:002015-02-10T18:30:49.644-05:00I start watering as soon as I see the buds pierce ...I start watering as soon as I see the buds pierce the papery covering othe the cane. At this stage they are quite small. At this time the plant start producing next year cane so the watering supports both the flower buds and the new growth,Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-60136795435193298302015-02-09T18:02:09.113-05:002015-02-09T18:02:09.113-05:00Ricardo, when you say when they start showing buds...Ricardo, when you say when they start showing buds, u start watering...like how big the buds are when u start watering?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-66845803113185907542013-08-07T02:29:38.420-04:002013-08-07T02:29:38.420-04:00Ricardo, you have a fascinating blog with some goo...Ricardo, you have a fascinating blog with some good info.<br /><br />I have a few Den Nobiles and hybrids and will definitely try your trick of growing them in converted plastic drink bottles. Good one!Harlzhttp://www.harlz.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-62876647266337767872013-01-25T21:03:59.236-05:002013-01-25T21:03:59.236-05:00In my plants the appareance of a new growth at the...In my plants the appareance of a new growth at the base of the plant occurs in the first or second week of March, The buds at the side of the cane start swelling in the third or fourth week of February. So in my collection the start of new growth and the swelling of floral buds happens roughly at the same time. I start watering the moment I see the floral buds swell. In those plant that are too young to bloom I start watering and fertilizing when I see the new growth.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402991574366070595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2868430679666532583.post-18220360547343360182013-01-23T22:19:59.072-05:002013-01-23T22:19:59.072-05:00Hi Ricardo,my dendrobium anasum is currently being...Hi Ricardo,my dendrobium anasum is currently being grown under T5 lights.Thelights are on for about 14 hours aday.Yesterday i noticed a smallnew green canedeveloping from the upper area of where the canes develop.We havce lost 6 or 7dried leaves.When should I begin to water or begin fertilizing and how long should it take to see buds starting to form on the cane that the leaves have fallen from. thank yu so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com